John 8:32 ye/you  Ye and You  before/after Allegory

Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free: John 8:32 (KJV)
After ye suffer awhile... the God of all grace make you perfect: 1Peter 5:10

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ye/you in same verse is before/after allegory

Ye and You are both used in the Holy Bible (KJV) is Allegoric.
Ye and You are also oft used in the same verse. Eg: John 8:32.
Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.

must be born again. The kingdom of God is within you.

So, ye should not be replaced with you in modern Bibles.
  For ye/you allegory denotes a before/after spiritual change
by comparing spiritual things (laws) with spiritual (grace).
For-ward: You-ward --> After-ward --> Us-ward: God-ward.
You-ward (of ye/you)  After-ward (of before/afterUs-ward (of them/us)

Holy Kiss: Grace unto you,  and (then it's) peace,
from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ

ye/you allegorizes biblical before/after scenarios:

Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free: John 8:32

Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace: Gal 5:4.

Ye do err: Matthew 22:29. The kingdom of God is within you: Luke 17:21.
Ye must be born again: John 3:7. Spirit of God dwelleth in you: 1Cor 3:16.
Ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity: Matthew 23:28.  The world shall be judged by you: 1Cor 6:2.
Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of: Luke 9:55. God ...hath forgiven you: Ephesians 4:32.

Of ye/you (created/made)
you is made free of law by the truth about law.
Of ye/you (before/after) you is made perfect by the God of all grace after.

1Peter 5:10's ye/you scenario is as before/after allegory:
But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus,
after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle [you].

So, even when you of ye/you, after of before/after, you still go on,
until you made perfect of ye/you are stablished, strengthened, settled.
Galatians 5 notes, if you stumble, it's a fall to ye are fallen from grace.
Only you perfected, stablished, strengthened, settled endures to the end.

Surely this iniquity shall not be purged from you till ye die: Isaiah 22:14
Dying unto law (not by law: sin: death) is what makes you alive unto God (Grace): Romans 6:11.

So ye and you are both used in the allegoric Holy Bible, and even in the same verse, by Translators of the Bible: kingly appointed "learned men" who (when following the translation guidelines) meticulously scrutinized and unanimously agreed upon every word of the translation to english; Such that the resulting KJV "Holy Bible" would be the seventh of seven; As if a good one (first six collectively called good) made better (seventh), as God saw "good" x 6, but "very good" (better) seventh time: Genesis 1, As converted Peter notes charity is seventh of seven things to add to faith.

But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: Matthew 5:39
Resist the devil, and he will flee from you: James 4:7

Upon doing much Holy Bible allegoric study, perhaps more than others, I learned there is less translation err than many assume in the KJV; For the authorized KJV aptly called Holy Bible is the seventh of seven, as if one 'more exact translation' than six previous: more reliable and consistent for searching out allegoric clues to solve the "mystery" of God "in time" so that none perish instead of all perish by law. Hence I thought to bring forth revelation and clarity about Bible Translators and biblical words like "shew" and "ye" which said Translators used to help (not hinder) us with our understanding, as if providing us allegoric clues like their three wishes for grace --> mercy --> peace are made "through Jesus --> Christ"-->God.

Luke 6:33
And if ye do good to them which do good to you,
what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.

With respect to the use of both ye and you in the same verse, there seems to be no option about knowing the truth or being made perfect (free) in either of John 8:32 or 1Peter 5:10 but there is a notable chanGe therein, a change from ye (before) to you (after) in both cases, as there is a chanGe "from glory to glory" (from law to grace) as by the Spirit in 2Corinthians 3, chanGe "from faith to faith" (from believe lies to know truth): Romans 1.

John 3:12
If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not,
how shall ye believe, if I tell you [of] heavenly things?

Such chanGe, and as if from (law)God to (grace)God, is also notable in Hebrews, a mini bible itself, and such begins as if from good to better in time past and last days, but such is not perfection until it's what's best for all of good better best. For even though God hath provided some "better" thing for "us" of them/us (Hebrews 11), it's still in the realm of plural heavens, the sides war thereof such left/right "division" (not peace), which is only good or better for some; And "peace" (not division) is above it. What's best for all is notably higher than the heavens, as God is in "heaven".

1Corinthians 3:16
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God,
and [that] the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

Matthew 23: 13, 14, 15, 16, 23, 25, 27, 29:
all eight "Woe"s in Mt 23 use both you and ye,
and woe (stop lawing you fools) is said unto you.

Looking at ye and you in the context of three things, charity never faileth  notably
being "greatest" of "three" things, there seem to be many other biblical allegoric scenarios to support even the better sort of two things, the better sort of two thems, the better sort of two children, the better sort of two servants, is not yet what's best for all. So let's take a look at ye/you accordingly, "you-ward" being the direction to go on from a ye/you midst:

3. You: made free, perfect, etc, by know-ing (is above and beyond faith-ing and hope-ing)
2. Ye/You: Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free: John 8:32
1. Ye: do err (ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of:  Luke 9:55), alway (Heb 3:10)

With respect to "spiritual" growth (both law and grace are "spiritual"), there seem to be three stages, the law/grace (ye/you) "midst" thereof notably being a potential "draw back" or "go on", draw back to spiritual law (perversion) or go on to spiritual grace (conversion) of two biblical false/true spirits we are told to try in 1John4, in order to know which is witch of twain. But if one of twain is a merciless killer, perhaps it's best to know which is witch before taking either of two Spirits out for a global ride, lest it result in global sorrows (like GWB took rod of iron
'rule of law'' out for a global ride, without first knowing it would cause an unwinnable war and an economic apocalypse).

So we have directional biblical words as allegoric clues to help give us a clue the way a child should go, like after-ward, you-ward, us-ward, to help truth seekers go the right direction: ever for-ward (endure to the end) of good --> better --> best, just as "charity never faileth", and because it is great --> greater --> "greatest" of three things, and twice fallen Baby-lon (is fallen, is fallen) is "great" <-- greater <-- greatest of three things. So twice fallen to great is back-ward, and twice risen to greatest is for-ward. For greater love can also be greater damnation, and greater law can also be greater condemnation, when greater is he that is in you than he that is in the world, because greater is a childish thing of little (law) children.

3. Us (us-ward): the Lord is long-suffering unto "us-ward" (grace)
2. Them/Us: Them: 1Thessalonians 5:3 or Us: 1Thessalonians 5:9
1. Them: who draw back to perdition (law)

Perhaps C-->J takes folk bwd to Jesus: was "born under the law", and J-->C takes folk fwd (through the cross) to Christ: is "the end of the law". It is notably "Christ" of "Jesus Christ" (Saviour) who is risen and seated at the right hand of God; as if Christ: "the end of the law" (grace void of law) is what's right with a God "divided" about such law/grace (darkness/light). It was Jesus (Law) who Stephen saw "standing" at the right hand of God, and the God on high of high/higher Gods: Law/Grace. It was notably "Christ" (Grace) that God was in reconciling the world unto himself.

3. Grace: The "grace" of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.
2. Law/Grace? Ye are not under law, but under grace if led of the Spirit.
1. Law: the schoolmaster witch failed every ye student (Romans 9:31)

After over 50,000 hrs of actual Bible study, especially concerning the "allegory" (Gal 4:24) of things written aforetime "for our learning" (Rom 15:4), and written as a "mystery" to be solved in time (since there is neither mystery nor time for such in eternity; nor any beginning or end of an eternal God), I found ye/you are used in the same before/after manner as first/last Adams, good/better hopes, great/greater lights, in old/new testaments, about first/second comings of faulty/perfect law/grace provided for them/us as if this/that gospels in a Twain shew, the first two parts (good/better) of a three part (good-->better-->best) God shew which speaks of the law/grace of Moses/JC as if lie/truth (John 1:17); and also of such ye/you scenarios like:

And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free: John 8:32

For the "ye" do err part speaks of the "childish" part of child/man (1Cor 13:11), and of the first of twain blesseds (Rom 4:7,8), and also of "twofold" being even "more the child of hell" in Mt 23:15 than former child of hell such as Pharisees and scribes (who sit in Moses' seat: law) were, which are also called hypocrites, fools, vipers, and blind guides who make "one" (grace) proselyte (grace + law). For such like (ye do err) are unaware (ignorant) that imputing sin (by adding "the law of sin and death" to "my grace is sufficient for thee") imputes both sin and death unto all. Thereby "all die"
in first of first/last Adams; and evidently from a bad case of grace + law = life + death = dead end.  So, it is written:

"he taketh away the first (law) that he may establish the second (grace)"

Grace + law is a perversion of both law and grace: two contrary things which cannot coexist in peace, and which only mix to make an oxymoron such as life + death = dead end. For grace "is" and law was "added" as a counter part in a law/grace shew, a comparative teaching about what His grace is in comparison to what His grace is not: law; the law being first

Speaking of yeye do err is the 1st (faulty) part of a 1st/2nd child/man shew
in which God declared the end from the beginning: "let us make man".
  -  ye do err, not knowing the scriptures nor the power of God (Matthew 22:29)
 -  Marvel not that I say unto thee, Ye must be born again (John 3:7)
 -  Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect (Matthew 5:48)
 -  seek and ye shall find (Luke 11:9) ... find grace, to help in time of need (Hebrews 4:16)
 -  ye are not under the law, but under grace (Romans 6:14)
 -  Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? (Galatians 4:21)
 -  ye lust and have not, ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain (James 4: 2)
 -  ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may ... (James 4:3)
 -  Why tempt ye me, [ye] hypocrites? (Matthew 22:18)
 -  Search the Scriptures, for in them [of them/us] ye think ye have eternal life (John 5:39)

God, for Christ's sake, hath forgiven you (Ephesians 4);
Forgave you by abolition of law is abolition of sacrifice.
Perhaps ye do err sheeple cannot be forgiven
if their law imputed blasphemy unpardonable,
not pardonable in this world nor in the to come.

Speaking of you, the Bible speaks of singularity, also allness, perfection:
  -  God hath forgiven you (Ephesians 4), so walk worthy of it for Christ' sake
 -  The kingdom of God is within you (Luke 17:21). Perhaps it's not within ye.
 -  Grace unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ: Pauline Epistles
 -  What I say unto you, I say unto all (the KofG within "you"): watch (Mark 13:37)
 -  the God of all grace... make you perfect, strengthened, stablished, settled... (1Peter 5:10)
 -  leave principles, go on unto perfection (Heb 6:1)...Grace with you all. Amen. (Heb 13:25)

There are too many biblical examples to put on one web page, so I'll leave off here, having brought forth enough awareness of ye/you for truth seekers to seek and find more examples on their own, and by find grace thereby "get it: understanding". Remember the Bible ends with "you all" which begins with "you".

The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

Related web pages: You-ward goes for-ward to us-ward (not back-ward to them-ward).
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